Legislature(2001 - 2002)

02/08/2001 01:10 PM House TRA

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                         
                        February 8, 2001                                                                                        
                           1:10 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HIGHWAY AND ROAD  SAFETY, WINTER TRAILS STUDY,  GRAVEL TO ASPHALT                                                               
PROGRAM                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
TAPES                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
01-12, SIDES A & B                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   VIC    KOHRING,   Chair,   called    the   House                                                               
Transportation Standing Committee to order at 1:10 p.m.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Committee members present  were Representatives Kohring, Kapsner,                                                               
Kookesh,   Scalzi,  Wilson,   and   Ogan.     Also  present   was                                                               
Representative Chenault.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY OF INFORMATION                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MARTIN OTT,  Chief, Planning & Administrative  Services, Northern                                                               
Region Office,  Department of Transportation &  Public Facilities                                                               
(DOT&PF), provided the committee with  copies of the Draft Winter                                                               
Transportation  Study prepared  by DOT&PF.   He  then provided  a                                                               
brief overview of the report.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DENNIS POSHARD,  Special Assistant,  Office of  the Commissioner,                                                               
DOT&PF,  provided  preliminary   comments  regarding  the  "State                                                               
Road/Highway  Safety"   agenda  items.    He   introduced  DOT&PF                                                               
teleconference attendees that would answer committee questions.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
AVES D.  THOMPSON, Director, Division of  Measurement Standards &                                                               
Commercial  Vehicle  Enforcement,  DOT&PF,  provided  information                                                               
regarding  commercial truck  inspections and  enforcement actions                                                               
for non-complying vehicles.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MURPH O'BRIEN,  Assistant to the  Director of the  Central Region                                                               
Office,  DOT&PF, provided  information describing  the status  of                                                               
the "Palmer Hayflats"  lighting of the Glenn Highway.   He stated                                                               
that  DOT&PF  had  started preliminary  engineering  to  identify                                                               
project  costs  to  construct  the light  system  and  to  obtain                                                               
federal project approval.  He  also addressed that the Matanuska-                                                               
/Susitna  Borough  and  the Matanuska  Electric  Cooperative  had                                                               
agreed  to pay  for the  operations and  maintenance costs  for a                                                               
three-year start-up period.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KOHRING inquired  whether any other communities  had to pay                                                               
for operating  street lights along  state roads and  highways and                                                               
what was going to happen after the three-year agreement was up.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  O'BRIEN stated  that no  other communities  were paying  for                                                               
lighting  and  that after  the  three-year  period, DOT&PF  would                                                               
assume the operations and maintenance costs.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE OGAN  emphasized his frustration that  although $1                                                               
million  was  appropriated  three   years  ago,  DOT&PF  has  not                                                               
completed  the project.   He  asked when  the construction  would                                                               
occur.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. O'BRIEN stated  that it would be placed into  the Fiscal Year                                                               
02 construction program.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHENAULT  expressed   concerns  about  inadequate                                                               
winter  road  maintenance  in  the  Nikiski  area  on  the  Kenai                                                               
Peninsula,  especially in  light  of the  closing  of the  DOT&PF                                                               
Nikiski Maintenance Facility  a few years ago.  He  added that he                                                               
knew  the few  DOT&PF maintenance  workers in  the area  and that                                                               
they  were  doing the  best  they  could  based on  manpower  and                                                               
equipment limitations.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
FRANK  WINTERS, Director,  Statewide Maintenance,  DOT&PF, stated                                                               
that equipment was  staged at the Nikiski facility,  but that due                                                               
to a  fire when  the equipment  was previously  stored elsewhere,                                                               
some of the  Nikiski equipment had been destroyed.   He expressed                                                               
gratitude  that the  legislature had  not cut  DOT&PF maintenance                                                               
funds last  year and hoped  that would be  the case this  year as                                                               
well.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OGAN  raised the  issue  of  crack sealing  as  a                                                               
preventative road maintenance  item that was not being  done.  He                                                               
inquired  whether DOT&PF  would  support  legislation that  would                                                               
specifically allow state  prisoners to be trained  and to perform                                                               
crack sealing.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
FRANK  RICHARDS, State  Maintenance  Engineer, DOT&PF,  described                                                               
crack sealing  procedures and  agreed that  not enough  was being                                                               
done, which resulted in more  significant maintenance issues.  He                                                               
stated that crack sealing was not a highly technical skill.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. POSHARD stated that the DOT&PF  would be happy to look at any                                                               
proposed  legislation that  would address  using prisoners  to do                                                               
maintenance.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS   provided  a   description  of   the  construction                                                               
performed  when paving  an existing  gravel road  and how  it was                                                               
more  basic  and cheaper  than  an  engineered road  construction                                                               
project.   He  provided a  handout entitled  "Gravel to  Pavement                                                               
Program," which listed  the roads paved and under  contract to be                                                               
paved under  this program, which  started in 1998.   Mr. Richards                                                               
stated  that one  primary purpose  of the  program was  to reduce                                                               
DOT&PF  maintenance  costs for  grading.    He added  that  other                                                               
considerations were made for air  quality of nearby residents and                                                               
for improving travel.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
REPRESENTATIVE SCALZI questioned  the long-term maintenance costs                                                               
of these  roads in that  paved roads  cost more to  maintain than                                                               
gravel  roads  after  about  7-10   years,  which  is  why  local                                                               
governments were hesitant to accept  state roads paved under this                                                               
program for future maintenance.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS agreed that after  the 7-10 year period, maintenance                                                               
costs were higher for paved roads.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCALZI  expressed  concern   for  what  might  be                                                               
happening to  the long-range DOT&PF  maintenance budget  and that                                                               
the  DOT&PF and  the  committee should  be  concerned about  this                                                               
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KOHRING asked  if DOT&PF  reviewed the  proposed Community                                                               
Gravel to Asphalt  Program, in the committee  meeting packet, and                                                               
what was DOT&PF's opinion of it.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  POSHARD answered  that the  DOT&PF had  not looked  into the                                                               
subject in  any detail,  but would  be willing  to work  with the                                                               
committee on the concept.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The committee took no action.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KOHRING   adjourned  the  House   Transportation  Standing                                                               
Committee meeting at 2:22 p.m.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
NOTE:   The meeting was  recorded and handwritten log  notes were                                                               
taken.  A  copy of the tape(s)  and log notes may  be obtained by                                                               
contacting the  House Records  Office at  State Capitol,  Room 3,                                                               
Juneau,  Alaska   99801  (mailing  address)  (907) 465-2214,  and                                                               
after  adjournment of  the second  session  of the  Twenty-Second                                                               
Alaska  State Legislature  this  information may  be obtained  by                                                               
contacting the Legislative Reference Library at (907) 465-3808.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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